217 Jussie Smollet, Restorative Justice, and Perfect Victims

In our continued meteoric rise to fame, we were tagged by Max S. Gordon on Twitter regarding an article he wrote about Jussie Smollet and decided to drop everything to talk about it

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Joke in the Middle

Did you hear the pun that was actually funny?

Main Topic

Nichole’s megalomania grows to new heights this week after being tagged in a Tweet by one of our faves.
Actual footage of Nichole after seeing the Tweet:

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We talk about an essay, I Don’t Love The Way You Lie: On Justice and Jussie Smollett, written by our beloved Max S. Gordon, king of nuance, about the Jussie Smollet incident and what it says about our perception of justice, race, sexuality in the United States, and how we use these stories as a way to avoid looking at ourselves. Amazing and highly quotable, as always, please read the essay as he delves into a lot of things we don’t and also just because his writing is so important and poignant and blunt.

We talk about some overlapping topics, but also take a look at how this highlights white as the default in the U.S., our celebrity culture around these “perfect victim” stories, and how having a justice system based on punishment prevents us from being able to process stories from victims and false claims in a way that would be 1000% more effective, empathetic, and avoid anyone’s life being “ruined.”

Plus, of course, a bunch of related but far-ranging tangents.

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